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Post by billfisher Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:14 pm

i decided to keep the 4v and upgrade it. i purchased 9.4:1 forged 2618 CP pistons, manley billet CNC 4340 i-beam rods, and a forged cobra crank. they are all being balanced at R&R machine shop in huntsville. im not making any changes to the short block otherwise. 120lb injectors, injector drivers, ba3200maf. im going to use a 64mm turbo for shakedown and tuning, then switching to a 76mm unit after i change the transmission to a TH400. gotta add a rollcage, 9" rear end. shooting for 1000rwhp with this one. it should make about 680 crank hp with the small 64mm turbo.

putting a granitelli an10/8 fuel hat into the stock fuel tank with an a1000 pump. also switch to the cobra rails i have, and a firewall fuel regulator. an10/8 fuel lines.
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Post by billfisher Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:18 pm

also changing the exhaust crossover to either 2 3/4" piping to 4" oval , or 3" crossovers and 4" oval to 3 1/2" up pipe. i have to remove volume restrictions in the exhaust up pipe. a 4" downpipe with 4" bullet.
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Post by FRCE_FED Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:51 am

Awesome to hear man!! Ive got some questions for ya if you have the time. give me a call 317-509-8620
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My Ride/Rides: : 2000 3.8L Stang, Performance Red
Mods: : Built 3.8l, Custom little 62mm Single Turbo, fox 8.8 rear, TKO500 5speed manual trans, HPX 05 maf, custom tune by myself, and vmp tuning Looking for 550rwh at the wheels! Its just a lil v6 Smile

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Post by billfisher Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:04 pm

i gotta find time to build the motor. working here local and living in huntsville is rough.
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Post by 393Bird Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:10 am

Sounds like it should be a real mover next year Bill.

Hey, remember I told you about a guy that was stationed in Korea, that looked like he may of been your Brother? Here is the picture.


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Oh, those asprins did the trick. Allowed me to make it home fine. I went to the hospital when I got home, was admitted and had heart surgery. Doing fine now.



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Post by billfisher Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:01 pm

bruce that scares the hell out of me. im glad you are ok. no way i was gonna not help. i reall glad we happened by when we did. please take better care.


-bill
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Post by FRCE_FED Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:02 am

Sry to hear about that bruce.. Glad everything is ok

Bill, any updates?
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Post by billfisher Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:57 pm

picked up the crank, rods, pistons from balancing at R&R yesterday. im gonna pull the car in and get the motor out next weekend. i gotta get the block decked a few thousands to clean it up. because in using 3 valve pistons i can go 4v, or port the 3v heads and use them. with the stall converter, theres no reason to use 3v, not to mention they wont be closer than 100rwhp at higher boost. at 20-29 lbs the 4v will murder 3v. 3v heads can be lightly modded to achieve 250 cfm pretty easily. 4V heads start there.
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Post by billfisher Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:06 pm

I gotta order all of the studs, and main bearing girdle. once i get the shortblock rebuilt, ill decide then. compression is 9.4:1.
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Post by FRCE_FED Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:19 pm

sounds great! still contemplating if i wanna take out my engine to replaace my v bands and goto a ball and socket style connector
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Mods: : Built 3.8l, Custom little 62mm Single Turbo, fox 8.8 rear, TKO500 5speed manual trans, HPX 05 maf, custom tune by myself, and vmp tuning Looking for 550rwh at the wheels! Its just a lil v6 Smile

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Post by billfisher Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:52 am

my y pipe is one piece, then i use a band clamp to the up pipe. v band at the turbo. the exhaust from the turbo is part of the turbo mount. i used the turbo exhaust flange 6 bolt pattern as the mount.
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Post by FRCE_FED Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:41 am

any pics yet of this?
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Mods: : Built 3.8l, Custom little 62mm Single Turbo, fox 8.8 rear, TKO500 5speed manual trans, HPX 05 maf, custom tune by myself, and vmp tuning Looking for 550rwh at the wheels! Its just a lil v6 Smile

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Post by billfisher Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:32 pm

no. ill take some as i do it.
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Post by tarafied1 Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:59 pm

very cool project.
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Post by billfisher Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:26 pm

thanks man, i going to fab an intake manifold for it too.


i have a 2007 4.6 3 valve im not going to use. it has 5k miles on it. if you ever wanna build a turbo from it or use it let me know. its going cheap. full conversion stuff is included. if you dont want it im holding onto it.

header adapter plates are made, IAC is made, manual throttle body adapter is made, etc. cam position mod is done.
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Post by FRCE_FED Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:39 pm

Ill let Cole know he is still looking for a motor for his 98 cobra chassis
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Mods: : Built 3.8l, Custom little 62mm Single Turbo, fox 8.8 rear, TKO500 5speed manual trans, HPX 05 maf, custom tune by myself, and vmp tuning Looking for 550rwh at the wheels! Its just a lil v6 Smile

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Post by billfisher Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:37 pm

ive talked to a converter specialist for modulars. his name is dirtydogg on the net. he builds for a lot of racers. he also has convinced me to stick with w 4R for this build. ill force OD off in the tune.

the converter alone will run over 1300.00. billet front cover, triple lockups, all the best billet parts inside. he said it wont take 1200hp on a transbrake, but im not going to leave that hard anyway. probably going to leave in the 500rwhp range at 4k. converter will be a 3700 rpm flash converter with full lockup during the run. i cant use wheelie bars.
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Post by SVT Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:48 am

i cant use wheelie bars.


You won't have enough to even worry about that... lol!
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Post by billfisher Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:29 pm

500 is the off the line power. the boost controller will keep adding power the whole run. rotating assembly's max is 1500hp. no doubt you'll leave hard on me, but ill be a-comin in the back half.
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Post by billfisher Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:02 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330447255871

ive gotten a number of turbos from them already. they do good work for less.


just got that turbo. i realize the 64mm is really not going to cut it even for tuning. this should be more realistic for temporary use. it will only be good for 900hp or so.


ht 60 is about the same power level as a 76mm garrett. it has a ~73mm inducer.


maybe some day ill use the 64 for something.
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Post by FRCE_FED Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:53 am

Bill,

i still have my PT72 for sale if you know anyone who might want it
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Mods: : Built 3.8l, Custom little 62mm Single Turbo, fox 8.8 rear, TKO500 5speed manual trans, HPX 05 maf, custom tune by myself, and vmp tuning Looking for 550rwh at the wheels! Its just a lil v6 Smile

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Post by billfisher Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:11 pm

i forgot man. ill keep it in mind.

i plan to run this turbo till i get the car completed and tuned for this one. then a 80-85 mm radial renegade approved turbo will be installed.
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Post by FRCE_FED Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:53 am

i cant wait to see this thing when your all done!! keep up the great work
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Mods: : Built 3.8l, Custom little 62mm Single Turbo, fox 8.8 rear, TKO500 5speed manual trans, HPX 05 maf, custom tune by myself, and vmp tuning Looking for 550rwh at the wheels! Its just a lil v6 Smile

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Post by billfisher Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:02 pm

that engine stand is an old one. a 69 pontiac 400 ram air was the first motor ever built on it...in ~1991.

on a side note: the stinking pistons did not come with locks. checked the invoice, and they are not included. had to use the old ones-old being a few years old.

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