new build for the 96 4v.
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FRCE_FED
billfisher
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new build for the 96 4v.
i decided to keep the 4v and upgrade it. i purchased 9.4:1 forged 2618 CP pistons, manley billet CNC 4340 i-beam rods, and a forged cobra crank. they are all being balanced at R&R machine shop in huntsville. im not making any changes to the short block otherwise. 120lb injectors, injector drivers, ba3200maf. im going to use a 64mm turbo for shakedown and tuning, then switching to a 76mm unit after i change the transmission to a TH400. gotta add a rollcage, 9" rear end. shooting for 1000rwhp with this one. it should make about 680 crank hp with the small 64mm turbo.
putting a granitelli an10/8 fuel hat into the stock fuel tank with an a1000 pump. also switch to the cobra rails i have, and a firewall fuel regulator. an10/8 fuel lines.
putting a granitelli an10/8 fuel hat into the stock fuel tank with an a1000 pump. also switch to the cobra rails i have, and a firewall fuel regulator. an10/8 fuel lines.
billfisher- Small Block 302
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Age : 58
Mods: : before march,28th...93' 4.6 4v ported heads, forgings, turbo, tubular suspension,90/10's, 2900lbs.
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
also changing the exhaust crossover to either 2 3/4" piping to 4" oval , or 3" crossovers and 4" oval to 3 1/2" up pipe. i have to remove volume restrictions in the exhaust up pipe. a 4" downpipe with 4" bullet.
billfisher- Small Block 302
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Age : 58
Mods: : before march,28th...93' 4.6 4v ported heads, forgings, turbo, tubular suspension,90/10's, 2900lbs.
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
Awesome to hear man!! Ive got some questions for ya if you have the time. give me a call 317-509-8620
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My Name: : David
My Ride/Rides: : 2000 3.8L Stang, Performance Red
Mods: : Built 3.8l, Custom little 62mm Single Turbo, fox 8.8 rear, TKO500 5speed manual trans, HPX 05 maf, custom tune by myself, and vmp tuning Looking for 550rwh at the wheels! Its just a lil v6
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
i gotta find time to build the motor. working here local and living in huntsville is rough.
billfisher- Small Block 302
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Age : 58
Mods: : before march,28th...93' 4.6 4v ported heads, forgings, turbo, tubular suspension,90/10's, 2900lbs.
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
Sounds like it should be a real mover next year Bill.
Hey, remember I told you about a guy that was stationed in Korea, that looked like he may of been your Brother? Here is the picture.
Oh, those asprins did the trick. Allowed me to make it home fine. I went to the hospital when I got home, was admitted and had heart surgery. Doing fine now.
Hey, remember I told you about a guy that was stationed in Korea, that looked like he may of been your Brother? Here is the picture.
Oh, those asprins did the trick. Allowed me to make it home fine. I went to the hospital when I got home, was admitted and had heart surgery. Doing fine now.
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
bruce that scares the hell out of me. im glad you are ok. no way i was gonna not help. i reall glad we happened by when we did. please take better care.
-bill
-bill
billfisher- Small Block 302
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Age : 58
Mods: : before march,28th...93' 4.6 4v ported heads, forgings, turbo, tubular suspension,90/10's, 2900lbs.
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
Sry to hear about that bruce.. Glad everything is ok
Bill, any updates?
Bill, any updates?
FRCE_FED- Admin
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Humor : spendin money that I don't have to buy parts that I don't need to impress people that I don't know
My Name: : David
My Ride/Rides: : 2000 3.8L Stang, Performance Red
Mods: : Built 3.8l, Custom little 62mm Single Turbo, fox 8.8 rear, TKO500 5speed manual trans, HPX 05 maf, custom tune by myself, and vmp tuning Looking for 550rwh at the wheels! Its just a lil v6
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
picked up the crank, rods, pistons from balancing at R&R yesterday. im gonna pull the car in and get the motor out next weekend. i gotta get the block decked a few thousands to clean it up. because in using 3 valve pistons i can go 4v, or port the 3v heads and use them. with the stall converter, theres no reason to use 3v, not to mention they wont be closer than 100rwhp at higher boost. at 20-29 lbs the 4v will murder 3v. 3v heads can be lightly modded to achieve 250 cfm pretty easily. 4V heads start there.
billfisher- Small Block 302
- Number of posts : 367
Age : 58
Mods: : before march,28th...93' 4.6 4v ported heads, forgings, turbo, tubular suspension,90/10's, 2900lbs.
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
I gotta order all of the studs, and main bearing girdle. once i get the shortblock rebuilt, ill decide then. compression is 9.4:1.
billfisher- Small Block 302
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Age : 58
Mods: : before march,28th...93' 4.6 4v ported heads, forgings, turbo, tubular suspension,90/10's, 2900lbs.
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
sounds great! still contemplating if i wanna take out my engine to replaace my v bands and goto a ball and socket style connector
FRCE_FED- Admin
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Humor : spendin money that I don't have to buy parts that I don't need to impress people that I don't know
My Name: : David
My Ride/Rides: : 2000 3.8L Stang, Performance Red
Mods: : Built 3.8l, Custom little 62mm Single Turbo, fox 8.8 rear, TKO500 5speed manual trans, HPX 05 maf, custom tune by myself, and vmp tuning Looking for 550rwh at the wheels! Its just a lil v6
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
my y pipe is one piece, then i use a band clamp to the up pipe. v band at the turbo. the exhaust from the turbo is part of the turbo mount. i used the turbo exhaust flange 6 bolt pattern as the mount.
billfisher- Small Block 302
- Number of posts : 367
Age : 58
Mods: : before march,28th...93' 4.6 4v ported heads, forgings, turbo, tubular suspension,90/10's, 2900lbs.
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
any pics yet of this?
FRCE_FED- Admin
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Age : 37
Humor : spendin money that I don't have to buy parts that I don't need to impress people that I don't know
My Name: : David
My Ride/Rides: : 2000 3.8L Stang, Performance Red
Mods: : Built 3.8l, Custom little 62mm Single Turbo, fox 8.8 rear, TKO500 5speed manual trans, HPX 05 maf, custom tune by myself, and vmp tuning Looking for 550rwh at the wheels! Its just a lil v6
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
no. ill take some as i do it.
billfisher- Small Block 302
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Age : 58
Mods: : before march,28th...93' 4.6 4v ported heads, forgings, turbo, tubular suspension,90/10's, 2900lbs.
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
thanks man, i going to fab an intake manifold for it too.
i have a 2007 4.6 3 valve im not going to use. it has 5k miles on it. if you ever wanna build a turbo from it or use it let me know. its going cheap. full conversion stuff is included. if you dont want it im holding onto it.
header adapter plates are made, IAC is made, manual throttle body adapter is made, etc. cam position mod is done.
i have a 2007 4.6 3 valve im not going to use. it has 5k miles on it. if you ever wanna build a turbo from it or use it let me know. its going cheap. full conversion stuff is included. if you dont want it im holding onto it.
header adapter plates are made, IAC is made, manual throttle body adapter is made, etc. cam position mod is done.
billfisher- Small Block 302
- Number of posts : 367
Age : 58
Mods: : before march,28th...93' 4.6 4v ported heads, forgings, turbo, tubular suspension,90/10's, 2900lbs.
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
Ill let Cole know he is still looking for a motor for his 98 cobra chassis
FRCE_FED- Admin
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Age : 37
Humor : spendin money that I don't have to buy parts that I don't need to impress people that I don't know
My Name: : David
My Ride/Rides: : 2000 3.8L Stang, Performance Red
Mods: : Built 3.8l, Custom little 62mm Single Turbo, fox 8.8 rear, TKO500 5speed manual trans, HPX 05 maf, custom tune by myself, and vmp tuning Looking for 550rwh at the wheels! Its just a lil v6
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
ive talked to a converter specialist for modulars. his name is dirtydogg on the net. he builds for a lot of racers. he also has convinced me to stick with w 4R for this build. ill force OD off in the tune.
the converter alone will run over 1300.00. billet front cover, triple lockups, all the best billet parts inside. he said it wont take 1200hp on a transbrake, but im not going to leave that hard anyway. probably going to leave in the 500rwhp range at 4k. converter will be a 3700 rpm flash converter with full lockup during the run. i cant use wheelie bars.
the converter alone will run over 1300.00. billet front cover, triple lockups, all the best billet parts inside. he said it wont take 1200hp on a transbrake, but im not going to leave that hard anyway. probably going to leave in the 500rwhp range at 4k. converter will be a 3700 rpm flash converter with full lockup during the run. i cant use wheelie bars.
billfisher- Small Block 302
- Number of posts : 367
Age : 58
Mods: : before march,28th...93' 4.6 4v ported heads, forgings, turbo, tubular suspension,90/10's, 2900lbs.
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
i cant use wheelie bars.
You won't have enough to even worry about that...
You won't have enough to even worry about that...
SVT- Small Block 289
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Re: new build for the 96 4v.
500 is the off the line power. the boost controller will keep adding power the whole run. rotating assembly's max is 1500hp. no doubt you'll leave hard on me, but ill be a-comin in the back half.
billfisher- Small Block 302
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Age : 58
Mods: : before march,28th...93' 4.6 4v ported heads, forgings, turbo, tubular suspension,90/10's, 2900lbs.
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330447255871
ive gotten a number of turbos from them already. they do good work for less.
just got that turbo. i realize the 64mm is really not going to cut it even for tuning. this should be more realistic for temporary use. it will only be good for 900hp or so.
ht 60 is about the same power level as a 76mm garrett. it has a ~73mm inducer.
maybe some day ill use the 64 for something.
ive gotten a number of turbos from them already. they do good work for less.
just got that turbo. i realize the 64mm is really not going to cut it even for tuning. this should be more realistic for temporary use. it will only be good for 900hp or so.
ht 60 is about the same power level as a 76mm garrett. it has a ~73mm inducer.
maybe some day ill use the 64 for something.
billfisher- Small Block 302
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Age : 58
Mods: : before march,28th...93' 4.6 4v ported heads, forgings, turbo, tubular suspension,90/10's, 2900lbs.
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
Bill,
i still have my PT72 for sale if you know anyone who might want it
i still have my PT72 for sale if you know anyone who might want it
FRCE_FED- Admin
- Number of posts : 2450
Age : 37
Humor : spendin money that I don't have to buy parts that I don't need to impress people that I don't know
My Name: : David
My Ride/Rides: : 2000 3.8L Stang, Performance Red
Mods: : Built 3.8l, Custom little 62mm Single Turbo, fox 8.8 rear, TKO500 5speed manual trans, HPX 05 maf, custom tune by myself, and vmp tuning Looking for 550rwh at the wheels! Its just a lil v6
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
i forgot man. ill keep it in mind.
i plan to run this turbo till i get the car completed and tuned for this one. then a 80-85 mm radial renegade approved turbo will be installed.
i plan to run this turbo till i get the car completed and tuned for this one. then a 80-85 mm radial renegade approved turbo will be installed.
billfisher- Small Block 302
- Number of posts : 367
Age : 58
Mods: : before march,28th...93' 4.6 4v ported heads, forgings, turbo, tubular suspension,90/10's, 2900lbs.
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
i cant wait to see this thing when your all done!! keep up the great work
FRCE_FED- Admin
- Number of posts : 2450
Age : 37
Humor : spendin money that I don't have to buy parts that I don't need to impress people that I don't know
My Name: : David
My Ride/Rides: : 2000 3.8L Stang, Performance Red
Mods: : Built 3.8l, Custom little 62mm Single Turbo, fox 8.8 rear, TKO500 5speed manual trans, HPX 05 maf, custom tune by myself, and vmp tuning Looking for 550rwh at the wheels! Its just a lil v6
Re: new build for the 96 4v.
that engine stand is an old one. a 69 pontiac 400 ram air was the first motor ever built on it...in ~1991.
on a side note: the stinking pistons did not come with locks. checked the invoice, and they are not included. had to use the old ones-old being a few years old.
on a side note: the stinking pistons did not come with locks. checked the invoice, and they are not included. had to use the old ones-old being a few years old.
billfisher- Small Block 302
- Number of posts : 367
Age : 58
Mods: : before march,28th...93' 4.6 4v ported heads, forgings, turbo, tubular suspension,90/10's, 2900lbs.
billfisher- Small Block 302
- Number of posts : 367
Age : 58
Mods: : before march,28th...93' 4.6 4v ported heads, forgings, turbo, tubular suspension,90/10's, 2900lbs.
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